World Emulation via Neural Network

(madebyoll.in)

182 points | by treesciencebot 13 hours ago

18 comments

  • das_keyboard 2 hours ago
    > So, if traditional game worlds are paintings, neural worlds are photographs. Information flows from sensor to screen without passing through human hands.

    I don't get this analogy at all. Instead of a human information flows through a neural network which alters the information.

    > Every lifelike detail in the final world is only there because my phone recorded it.

    I might be wrong here but I don't think this is true. It might also be there because the network inferred that it is there based on previous data.

    Imo this just takes the human out of a artistic process - creating video game worlds and I'm not sure if this is worth archiving.

    • ajb 2 hours ago
      >I don't get this analogy at all. Instead of a human information flows through a neural network which alters the information.

      These days most photos are also stored using lossy compression which alters the information.

      You can think of this as a form of highly lossy compression of an image of this forest in time and space.

      Most lossy compression is 'subtractive' in that detail is subtracted from the image in order to compress it, so the kind of alterations are limited. However there have been previous non-subtractive forms of compression (eg, fractal compression) that have been criticised on the basis of making up details, which is certainly something that a neural network will do. However if the network is only trained on this forest data, rather than being also trained on other data and then fine tuned, then in some sense it does only represent this forest rather than giving an 'informed impression' like a human artist would.

  • montebicyclelo 1 hour ago
    Awesome work / demo / blog

    Link to the demo in case people miss it [1]

    > using a customized camera app which also recorded my phone’s motion

    Using phone's gyro as a proxy for "controls" is very clever

    [1] https://madebyoll.in/posts/world_emulation_via_dnn/demo/

  • Valk3_ 4 hours ago
    This might be a vague question, but what kind of intuition or knowledge do you need to work with these kind of things, say if you want to make your own model? Is it just having experience with image generation and trying to incorporate relevant inputs that you would expect in a 3D world, like the control information you added for instance?
  • AndrewKemendo 10 hours ago
    I think this is very interesting because you seem to have reinvented NeRF, if I’m understanding it correctly. I only did one pass through but it looks at first glance like a different approach entirely.

    More interesting is that you made an easy to use environment authoring tool that (I haven’t tried it yet) seems really slick.

    Both of those are impressive alone but together that’s very exciting.

    • bjornsing 6 hours ago
      NeRF is a more complex and constrained approach, based on a kind of ray tracing. But results are obviously similar.
  • titouanch 2 hours ago
    This is very impressive for a hobby project. I was wondering if you were planning to release the source code. Being able to create client-hosted, low-requirement neural networks for world generation could be really useful for game dev or artistic projects.
    • thenthenthen 1 minute ago
      Yes please! I would love to try and use this on disappearing neighbourhoods, the results are so dreamlike, or like memories!
  • nopakos 3 hours ago
    Next we should try "Excel emulation via Neural Network". We get rid of a lot of intermediate steps, calculations, user interface etc!

    What could go wrong?

    Jokes aside, this is insanely cool!

    • downboots 2 hours ago
      or for a large dataset of math identities and have the user draw one side
  • tehsauce 9 hours ago
    I love this! Your results seem comparable to the counter strike or minecraft models from a bit ago with massively less compute and data. It's particularly cool that it uses real world data. I've been wanting to do something like this for a while, like capturing a large dataset while backpacking in the cascades :)

    I didn't see it in an obvious place on your github, do you have any plans to open source the training code?

  • udia 10 hours ago
    Very nice work. Seems very similar to the Oasis Minecraft simulator.

    https://oasis.decart.ai/

    • ollin 9 hours ago
      Yup, definitely similar! There are a lot of video-game-emulation World Models floating around now, https://worldarcade.gg had a list. In the self-driving & robotics literature there have also been many WMs created for policy training and evaluation. I don't remember a prior WM built on first-person cell-phone video, but it's a simple enough concept that someone has probably done it for a student project or something :)
  • Imanari 2 hours ago
    Amazing work. Could you elaborate on the model architecture and the process that lead you to using this architecture?
  • puchatek 11 hours ago
    This is great but I think I'll stick to mushrooms.
    • ulrikrasmussen 5 hours ago
      I also thought those wooden guard rails looked pretty spot on how they would look on 2C-B. The only thing that's missing is the overlay of geometric patterns on even surfaces.
    • bongodongobob 9 hours ago
      Yeah, the similarities to psychedelics with some of this stuff is remarkable.
      • ilaksh 7 hours ago
        It makes me think that maybe our visual perception is similar to what this program is doing in some ways.

        I wonder if there are any computer vision projects that take a similar world emulation approach?

        Imagine you collected the depth data also.

    • LoganDark 7 hours ago
      For some reason, psilocybin causes me to randomly just lose consciousness, and LSD doesn't. Weird stuff.
  • gitroom 6 hours ago
    Gotta say, Ive always wanted to try building something like this myself. That kind of grind pays off way more than shiny announcements imo.
  • alain94040 11 hours ago
    Appreciate this article that shows some failures on the way to a great result. Too many times, people only show how the polished end-result: look, I trained this AI and it produces these great results. The world dissolving was very interesting to see, even if I'm not sure I understand how it got fixed.
    • ollin 11 hours ago
      Thanks! My favorite failure mode (not mentioned in the post - I think it was during the first round of upgrades?) was a "dry" form of soupification where the texture detail didn't fully disappear https://imgur.com/c7gVRG0
  • quantumHazer 11 hours ago
    Is this a solo/personal project? If it is is indeed very cool.

    Is OP the blog’s author? Because in the post the author said that the purpose of the project is to show why NN are truly special and I wanted a more articulate view of why he/she thinks that? Good work anyway!

    • ollin 11 hours ago
      Yes! This was a solo project done in my free time :) to learn about WMs and get more practice training GANs.

      The special aspect of NNs (in the context of simulating worlds) is that NNs can mimic entire worlds from videos alone, without access to the source code (in the case of pokemon) or even without the source code having existed (as is the case for the real-world forest trail mimicked in this post). They mimic the entire interactive behavior of the world, not just the geometry (note e.g. the not-programmed-in autoexposure that appears when you look at the sky).

      Although the neural world in the post is a toy project, and quite far from generating photorealistic frames with "trees that bend in the wind, lilypads that bob in the rain, birds that sing to each other", I think getting better results is mostly a matter of scale. See e.g. the GAIA-2 results (https://wayve.ai/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/generalisation_0..., https://wayve.ai/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/unsafe_ego_01_le...) for an example of what WMs can do without the realtime-rendering-in-a-browser constraints :)

      • attilakun 4 hours ago
        Amazing project. This has the same feel as Karpathy’s classic “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Recurrent Neural Networks” blog post. I think in 10 years’ time we will look back and say “wow, this is how it started.”
      • janalsncm 10 hours ago
        You mentioned it took 100 gpu hours, what gpu did you train on?
        • ollin 9 hours ago
          Mostly 1xA10 (though I switched to 1xGH200 briefly at the end, lambda has a sale going). The network used in the post is very tiny, but I had to train a really long time w/ large batch to get somewhat-stable results.
    • treesciencebot 11 hours ago
  • bjornsing 6 hours ago
    What used to be cutting edge research not so long ago is now a fun hobby project. I love it.
  • ilaksh 9 hours ago
    This seems incredibly powerful.

    Imagine a similar technique but with productivity software.

    And a pre-trained network that adapts quickly.

  • throwaway314155 10 hours ago
    Really cool. How much compute did you require to successfully train these models? Is it in the ballpark of something you could do with a single gaming GPU? Or did you spin up something fancier?

    edit: I see now that you mention a pricepoint of 100 GPU-hours/roughly 100$. My mistake.

  • bitwize 10 hours ago
    I want to see a spiritual successor to LSD: Dream Emulator based on this.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD:_Dream_Emulator