Why not rig it the other way: pump water past the CPU, then through your coffee grounds?
It probably wouldn't be great for your CPU, because the temperature required to properly brew coffee is hotter than you really want for your CPU. But maybe get the water to 80C, and a secondary heater after that.
Maybe one wants a mini heat pump between the CPU and the coffee. 50º C is plenty for a heat pump to very efficiently push the temperature on the other side to 98º C or so
Can this concept be extended to the home in general? Why not pump heat out of computer components and into a general hot water tank for home use? I wonder if anyone's tried it.
I have used a mini home-datacenter to heat my house in winter (very effectively - I used a fan to direct the heat towards the intake for the AC system and ran the AC fan). But I decided against the HW heater version of it from a cost recovery perspective - we just don't use that much hot water and we had a then-new high efficiency gas hot water heater.
However, there's a fairly straightforward way to get halfway there: You can run a standard heat pump hot water heater and put the computers in the same room with it. The computers will heat the air, the heat pump hot water heater will cool the air. Won't be as efficient as a closed loop system directly connecting the computers to the HW heater but you also won't need to worry about whether the heat production and consumption are balanced.
I’ve long been annoyed in the summer every time I turn on a heat generating appliance (stove, dryer, on-demand hot water) and then think about all the waste heat my air conditioner dumped out the side of the house in the last X hours. It would be amazing to somehow store that heat in a reservoir where it could be later used.
I doubt the extra piping and infrastructure is anywhere near worth it, but I sometimes fantasize about an experimental building that was designed from the get-go with a single integrated heat loop that all the major appliances were plugged into, and how that might look. Seems like the sort of thing that could be tried in a much more confined space such as for an off-grid RV.
> I doubt the extra piping and infrastructure is anywhere near worth it
I wonder. Infrastructure investments tend to have absurd payoffs. For example, my solar energy equipment has been generating profit for years.
In my country 5 kW electric showers are common every day items and they add up to a huge chunk of household energy consumption. Switching to a more efficient water heating system has been on my mind for years. If I can use my home server as a heating element, so much the better. Could even use free CPU cycles to mine Monero on it. A solar powered cryptocurrency mining home serving water heating computer. Wow.
I also think a lot about the heat my air conditioners constantly pump out of my house. Seems like a waste to just throw it out of the house like that. Ideally it would be stored so that it could be used to heat other things later... To me it seems like it should be possible with enough integration.
Two issues I see here would be that a) the demand and production of how water and compute power might not align and b) the amount of water heated this way would probably not be nearly enough for most people.
What is probably more feasible is to save on heating costs by heating your apartment partially with your computer.
The main problems I see are that we don't clean the insides of computer parts and we can drink water with way more calcium in it than is good for high temperature water heaters. Cooling water needs to be treated to not grow algae and bacteria in it, and a lot of times that renders it poisonous to drink. Conversely, drinking water has a lot of minerals still in it and those minerals will deposit and form scale on the insides of your heat transfer surfaces, which will severely impact performance over time. It may not even take that long depending on how hot the surface is and how hard your water is.
You could recirculate water past the CPU via an insulated storage carafe. This would create a fun and exciting gamble wherein you might receive a freshly brewed pot of coffee OR your computer might turn itself off just before the water is hot enough to brew with, and the time it would take would be based on how hard you worked the PC.
Not sure if this is what you mean but an actual heat pump with a compressor could handle this— after all, an air conditioner cools your house to 23C by dumping the waste heat to an environment that can be 40C or more.
80C is about the lowest you would want to use but can definitely get you a good cup of coffee. It will come out a bit lighter but using a finer grind might offset that.
Use a heat pump to keep the CPU (and GPU as a secondary heat source) at a lower temperature then heat the coffee water with a secondary heat exchanger. Then you can control the temperature of both cooling loops independently.
This, except when it comes time to actually brew, it goes to a 5.25” slot to heat up, then you can determine the best delivery mechanism for your build. Shot/Kup, drip, pour over, just don’t build a french press PC.
And have a reservoir large enough to replenish the closed loop circuit when you press the button.
I’d like to see this project extended with AI to work out what drink the user really wants before dispensing a drink almost, but not entirely, unlike tea.
And of course, peculation means misappropriating or embezzling funds. Again, given crypto (and certain notorious crypto exchanges), even more appropriate.
"Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process and the innards are discouraging to any but the pure scientific mind." (E. B. White)
This is the very best kind of silly project. :) I'm pleased to learn that the coffee is an effective (... sortof) heatsink and not merely part of the case.
The tubing and pumps are food safe, however, the radiators and cooling block are not. It's a special tasting cup of coffee best consumed in moderation.
A key with haptic feedback that when pressed runs the CPU/GPU and as water heats up the button lets you know. Calibrate feedback to temperature and ease off the button when the water is done.
Tread carefully. This is how the Borg started. “Your caffeinated and medicated existence will be added to our own, resistance is futile… pass the creamer.”
Should probably run cpu benchmarks while slowing water cooling pump + pressurizing cooling system above 9bar and expressing water through carefully tamped specially ground coffee and drip into cup.
or just have a large reservoir, severely overcool the cpu and cold-brew the coffee
Excellent find - I haven't heard of this one. The marketing gag approach reminds me of the Zotac Mekspresso build by Ali “THE CRE8OR” Abbas.
https://thecre8or.de/mekspresso.htm
It probably wouldn't be great for your CPU, because the temperature required to properly brew coffee is hotter than you really want for your CPU. But maybe get the water to 80C, and a secondary heater after that.
However, there's a fairly straightforward way to get halfway there: You can run a standard heat pump hot water heater and put the computers in the same room with it. The computers will heat the air, the heat pump hot water heater will cool the air. Won't be as efficient as a closed loop system directly connecting the computers to the HW heater but you also won't need to worry about whether the heat production and consumption are balanced.
I doubt the extra piping and infrastructure is anywhere near worth it, but I sometimes fantasize about an experimental building that was designed from the get-go with a single integrated heat loop that all the major appliances were plugged into, and how that might look. Seems like the sort of thing that could be tried in a much more confined space such as for an off-grid RV.
I wonder. Infrastructure investments tend to have absurd payoffs. For example, my solar energy equipment has been generating profit for years.
In my country 5 kW electric showers are common every day items and they add up to a huge chunk of household energy consumption. Switching to a more efficient water heating system has been on my mind for years. If I can use my home server as a heating element, so much the better. Could even use free CPU cycles to mine Monero on it. A solar powered cryptocurrency mining home serving water heating computer. Wow.
I also think a lot about the heat my air conditioners constantly pump out of my house. Seems like a waste to just throw it out of the house like that. Ideally it would be stored so that it could be used to heat other things later... To me it seems like it should be possible with enough integration.
What is probably more feasible is to save on heating costs by heating your apartment partially with your computer.
And have a reservoir large enough to replenish the closed loop circuit when you press the button.
Don't worry, I'll run an Electron app.
Share and enjoy!
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Digitally enhanced coffee as fungible tokens. “Decaf” for short. What could go wrong?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Text_Coffee_Pot_Contro...
or just have a large reservoir, severely overcool the cpu and cold-brew the coffee
Its objectives lie elsewhere.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SGI_Espressigo
https://old.reddit.com/r/SiliconGraphics/comments/1eh9puu/sg...