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  • Doxin 14 hours ago
    Some more context from a dutch news source[0]:

    The ministry of economic affairs intervened out of a fear that crucial technological skills and capacities will leave the Netherlands and Europe. The ministry stated in a press release[1] that there was a threat of a "knowledge leak" (w/e that means exactly) and a possible threat to the European economy.

    After this intervention the Dutch government can now stop or reverse decisions within the company. That's only allowed if those decisions are harmful to the interests of the company, or for the future of the company as a Dutch or European business, or to the retaining of this crucial value chain for europe.

    The company can appeal this decision in court.

    For context, the law that allows this all to happen was passed in 1952 and has never before been used. As much as I think our government is currently ran by a bunch of nincompoops, I am inclined to believe that something quite significant was about to happen for this law to get invoked. What exactly that was can for now only be speculated about.

    I can recommend you run google translate (or equivalent) on the press release. It's as close as you can get to the source of this news for now. I can only imagine the government is going to be having plenty of debates on the topic coming up, seeing as this is a very rare use of a very heavy-handed tool.

    [0] https://nos.nl/artikel/2586270-kabinet-grijpt-hard-in-bij-ch...

    [1] https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2025/10/12/wet-b...

    • HSO 1 hour ago
      After what I learned in the last five years, first the pandemic, then Gaza, I dont believe anything, absolutely nothing, from "western" explanations, "news channels", "newspapers", certainly no politicians but also no bureaucrats or officials, nothing.

      I only look at actual actions and data and private citizens and actual scholars who wrote enough to gauge if they are knowledgeable and trustworthy from examining their past writings. Anything official or even with a whiff of "officiality" is at best unbelievable, if not countersignaling.

      PS. Exception maybe FT, some macro research services like Gavekal, and science focused media. Even technology focused stuff is polluted now with the demented western anxiety and inferiority complex about China.

      • maxdo 1 hour ago
        EU and west finally TRYING to protect their market the way China is doing it all the time. They tax, ban, espionage everything beneficial to their society.

        China would do it without a blink.

        • markus_zhang 43 minutes ago
          Well if I'm from EU and if I know my government doesn't do espionage and all sorts of nasty things, I'd really be very worried. They (the government and its agencies) are supposed to do the nasty jobs, and it is very incompetent if they don't do so.
        • protocolture 34 minutes ago
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93Timor-Leste_...

          Uh, you gotta understand that China has never been alone.

        • hshdhdhj4444 37 minutes ago
          “Protect their market” - And yet the U.S. and Europe are richer than ever.

          It’s hilarious seeing the US oligarchs distracting from the fact that they’ve transferred massive amounts of wealth from the broader society to themselves by blaming every one else.

          There is a fair argument to protect strategic industries and actions like these are probably needed, but let’s not pretend the “markets” are at risk because of anything China is doing, which is essentially giving Americans and Europeans actual stuff in return for pieces of paper.

        • mk89 1 hour ago
          They would, they do and they did it. But we called them communists for doing so. ;)
          • rbanffy 59 minutes ago
            Comrade Karremans it is then…
          • maxdo 1 hour ago
            communism is actually exactly the opposite of that. this is rutheless capitalism 101 from china vs religious left/right fights of the west boosted by not in my backyard individualism.

            West lived for too long for too good, to start believe that they can do whatever, and live good.

          • reliabilityguy 43 minutes ago
            > But we called them communists for doing so. ;)

            What?

            They view themselves as communists. Moreover, all these policies have nothing to do with communism.

          • corimaith 1 hour ago
            Economic Nationalism is not Communism by any sense. Nor is responding to mercantilism.

            But the CCP explicitly considers themselves Marxism-Leninism with and their internal beliefs and government structure is structurally follows that.

            We consider them Communists and they consider themselves Communist. They do not consider us Communist and we don't either.

            You're trying to create a false conflation here and stir division. I'm interested in whose interests comments like yours really reflect. It's certainly not the truth.

            • mk89 28 minutes ago
              You can call it Economic nationalism all you want, but these are similar principles that were applied in authoritarian states like in Fascist/Nazi times.

              I don't care if they are Communists - we call them like that to say "they're authoritarian", however, we're failing to see where we (West) are getting. In order to "defend" our democracy we're becoming increasingly like them.

              To think that all that it takes would be to change our lifestyle NOT to buy anymore 5 pairs of low quality shoes per year or so, but 1 or 2 good ones, maybe made by your neighbour. Which is exactly how I grew up with, until someone told us that we need to buy a load of cheap crap, otherwise you're not cool.

              • mgh95 14 minutes ago
                > You can call it Economic nationalism all you want, but these are similar principles that were applied in authoritarian states like in Fascist/Nazi times.

                Simply because economic nationalism is a characteristic of authoritarian state and has been a characteristic of fascist (Italian fascism, especially) and Nazis does not imply economic nationalism is intrinsically authoritarian fascist.

                America for much of its history was protectionist. Europe remains a bloc intended to protect local industries characteristic of national identity, for example the rejection of Mercosur by the French. India seeks to grow its domestic titans and shut out foreign firms while purchasing abroad through activities such as the ArcelorMittal acquisition.

                Economic nationalism is very much its own independent theme.

            • HSO 42 minutes ago
              > the CCP explicitly considers themselves Marxism-Leninism with and their internal beliefs and government structure is structurally follows that.

              > they consider themselves Communist. They do not consider us Communist.

              And you know all this because of your deep study, in the original language of course, of the CPC, their internal factions, and the collected writings in their leading policy journals, I assume, yes?

              Or dare I even ask did you get this from some 250 word limit editorial in the "wall street journal"?

          • Sammi 39 minutes ago
            You're not a murderer for killing in self defence. You are allowed to defend yourself.
            • mk89 29 minutes ago
              Yeah, the next step is to actually think "they are all potential enemies, we should produce here and be independent, so in case there is a war we can make it". Autarky is how Fascism began.
              • tmnvix 21 minutes ago
                "Super Sparta"
      • yoavm 1 hour ago
        So what exactly are you learning in this case from the actions, the data, the private citizens or the scholars, that is so different from "Western" explanations?
        • HSO 52 minutes ago
          In this particular case? Nothing yet, it is too fresh. For now it is just another datapoint.

          From other such episodes together?

          That all the western homilies of "demokwafee" "caputalishm" "mahkit fweedum" "wool of louw" "yumin wightz" "fweedum of expeshun" etc are just nothing but BS. As soon as it gets inconvenient or the table is turned, they are dropped like a hot potato.

          Got me fooled for the first quarter of my life. Good on you.

          Now the mask is off. Now I know who or what Im dealing with. Seen enough, tyvm good luck

          • jasonwatkinspdx 7 minutes ago
            Do you have anything to say that isn't childish spleen venting?
          • reliabilityguy 33 minutes ago
            > As soon as it gets inconvenient or the table is turned, they are dropped like a hot potato.

            I am confused. Are non-“western” stars/nations better in this regard? I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say.

            • xboxnolifes 24 minutes ago
              It doesn't matter if they are better or worse. Your own principles should not be things that shift based on what somebody else does.
              • bfg_9k 7 minutes ago
                Principles don't exist in a vacuum. When viewing someone else, you only consider them 'principled' because of the context they exist in.

                In a world where everyone donates 50% of their pay check to charity, the person who donates 25% is considered selfish.

          • markus_zhang 45 minutes ago
            I think that's fine. High politics is always very nasty, and any written contracts are supposed to be teared apart. I think the elites of whatever countries are mature enough to eat it.

            Regarding us, the human resources, it is irrelevant however we think.

      • mk89 1 hour ago
        > inferiority complex about China.

        That's not some s** that someone made up. They/We created an unstoppable beast. They thought that China would be like India or Vietnam or so. Nope.

        You name it, they build it.

        We can only "regulate" it - see what Europe has come up with to justify it - with the CO2 nonsense, "human rights" and all that. More regulations are the only way to prevent to get your market over flooded by products that you can't possibly build at that speed and cost (and not necessarily quality, but finally, most of what we use come from there and aren't MacBooks good? or fridges/TVs/phones, etc).

        • maxdo 1 hour ago
          That’s a myth. Yes, we allow them to move faster—much faster—but it’s simply because their government is more efficient.

          Western society, in contrast, runs on a kind of religion. People follow a few belief systems: socialism, right-wing conservatism, and perhaps liberalism as a softer sub-flavor.

          Here’s the fun part: China learned the hard way that no single dogma—whether communism or anything else—is worth worshiping if it leaves people hungry. They’ve mixed communism, socialism, and raw capitalism, using whatever tools best serve their progress. Ruthless goal achievement.

          Meanwhile, Western society has turned the left-versus-right divide into something resembling the conflict between major branches of Islam—where factions despise and fight each other. It’s extremely foolish.

          It's soolish, like any blind reglion following. And yeah, with this divide we have, we all become religios == stupid.

          • mk89 58 minutes ago
            It's not a myth - China wouldn't be in this situation without Nike/etc. going there in the 80's to "reduce" costs (to actually increase their profits). That triggered the whole chain. They thought they could just jump ship when the prices would increase, but what they didn't expect was that they had a guy that instead of getting just fatter and fatter (like many leaders in the world who finally become corrupt etc) actually had a vision for his country, and it's working out. It's the best implementation of the boiling frog metaphor.

            About the rest of the post - I would say it's a bit more complicated than just black or white.

            • RealityVoid 37 minutes ago
              > About the rest of the post - I would say it's a bit more complicated than just black or white.

              Yes, I think that was his point as well. Policy is a set of tools, and depending on the current state of the system there is a right tool for the the job,with, of course, a set of tradeoffs. Discarding tools "of the right" or "of the left" is foolish.

      • lstodd 1 hour ago
        Yes, Fourier Transform never lies when you get it right. :-/s
        • HSO 57 minutes ago
          Touché :)
    • itopaloglu83 28 minutes ago
      Everybody is a fan of free access and capital markets, until a foreign entity purchases something of importance.

      It’s a continuation of recent trends and closing markets.

      Nobody in their sane mind would allow a company like ASML or the likes to be purchased by competitors.

      But the irony is that when a non-European entity were to do something like this, e.g. nationalize their oil or mining etc. industry or a firm, the whole hell would brake loose.

      • incompatible 0 minutes ago
        This has always been the case, to some degree, but I think it will be a much bigger factor now that so many have accepted that Neoliberalism is dead and no longer give it lip service.
      • HPsquared 24 minutes ago
        "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
        • itopaloglu83 12 minutes ago
          I wonder how this would affect patent applications, since after such an event, some countries might not respect patents for their internal markets.
    • tmnvix 2 hours ago
      > For context, the law that allows this all to happen was passed in 1952 and has never before been used.

      Interesting parallel here with China recently invoking - for the first time - their own legislation from the 50's to ban rare earth exports for military uses.

      • walkabout 1 hour ago
        Probably not an awesome sign if multiple actors are invoking never-used laws that were created while WWII was still fresh on everyone's mind.
        • markus_zhang 1 hour ago
          Let’s hope this one is still cold.
        • awesome_dude 41 minutes ago
          s/while WWII was still fresh/the cold war was
      • infinet 5 minutes ago
        [delayed]
      • this_user 38 minutes ago
        That whole REE thing is more of a scare tactic than anything. REEs are really not all that rare, and the current imports of REEs into the US are worth around $200-250M annually. That is millions, not billions. It's actually a laughably small amount.

        The main reason that it's mostly China producing them may simply be due to the fact that the volumes are so small that building your own industry is not really worth it.

        • tmnvix 18 minutes ago
          Dollar value is not the point. For the US MIC this matters a lot. There are not really any ready replacements for some vital weapons components at a time when US weapons stockpiles have been heavily depleted.
      • trhway 1 hour ago
        I always wondered how the large unified world of Roman Empire with running water and sewer fell apart (and backwards) into multitude of small feudal pieces with no technology to speak of for the 1000 years after Roman Empire. I think our modern civilization is probably at the beginning of similar process.
        • markus_zhang 48 minutes ago
          I think we are fine in term of infra -- I don't work as a civil engineer, but considering companies in my city repair the roads every year /s they probably retain the knowledge.
          • galangalalgol 33 minutes ago
            How easy is the machinery and tools needed to keep all the infrastructure running? Earth movers are pretty maintainable and barely depreciate. Survey tools though? They have gotten famcy right? Water management has gone quite high tech in some ways. I could see them falling apart kind of like when some hospitals had to revert to paper tape logs. It didn't scale anymore.
          • trhway 16 minutes ago
            The infra today is internet and semiconductors which run it, as well as global shipping without each we end up without even necessities.
          • fakedang 35 minutes ago
            Exactly. Building roads and aqueducts were empire-level knowledge skills in Ancient Rome, performed by the army legions. Thankfully they're highly localized skills today.
        • selimthegrim 53 minutes ago
          Why stop there why not Indus Valley Civilization
          • trhway 1 minute ago
            our knowledge (at least my knowledge of it) is much much smaller that that of Roman Empire, and in particular i don't know whether the fall of that civilization demonstrated the effect of splitting into multitude technologically inferior pieces stagnating for such a long time after that.
      • fakedang 36 minutes ago
        This is it.
      • dylan604 2 hours ago
        How can you say what the minerals were actually used for though is the question I always have in these types of situations. There are multiple uses of the minerals. Since I've now gotten a literal boat load of the minerals from you, I can use those minerals on other things which now frees up my personal source of minerals on the things you didn't want them used in. In the spirit of the agreement, I'm in full compliance all while achieving the thing you didn't want me to achieve. It's nothing but Pilate washing his hands
        • dgfitz 1 hour ago
          Are you tracking that harvesting REM is a nasty business with a lot of “don’t look” environmental impacts? As such, most countries don’t do it, or have an infrastructure for it.
          • dylan604 1 hour ago
            https://rareearthexchanges.com/best-rare-earth-mining-compan...

            Plenty of US companies ready and willing. They've finally gotten an administration that is of like mind on screw the environment and dig dig dig.

            • markus_zhang 47 minutes ago
              US also needs all those factories and machinery to process the stuff.
            • dgfitz 1 hour ago
              So, you agree?
              • dylan604 1 hour ago
                Agree with what? What is it that you think is a gotcha here?
                • dgfitz 1 hour ago
                  Most countries don’t do it, including the US.

                  “Ready and willing” is quite the turn of phrase.

                  • dylan604 1 hour ago
                    I've seen US numbers along 70-80% is imported. That leaves 20-30% domestic. Some of the REEs are 100% imported, so that's a different issue. But you seem to be implying that the US is 100% importing all REEs with no domestic production at all. That's not true. Yes, some production is slowed due to environmental issues. Some of it is a different nature along the lines of "why mine yours when you can buy someone else's". You keep yours in the ground until you have to get it. You have some small production just to keep the know-how, but you keep the stove down to a simmer from a boil.
                    • tmnvix 38 minutes ago
                      > Some of it is a different nature along the lines of "why mine yours when you can buy someone else's". You keep yours in the ground until you have to get it.

                      My understanding is that a large part of the issue is processing capacity/ability - not mining of the ore. In fact, a significant amount of ore mined in the US is sent to China for processing. I don't think it's a simple case of the US standing up some processing plants in 1-2 years. If that were the case, wouldn't you think it would've happened by now? Is US leadership that bad that they failed to address this risk? Or - more likely - is it because solving the issue will take a lot more than some quick investment?

                      This is a huge issue for the US MIC. Plans (e.g. with regard to Iran) are going back to the drawing board for sure.

            • fakedang 34 minutes ago
              USA does not have the refining capacity which will take another 8 years to build out.
    • nonethewiser 2 hours ago
      So what just happened logistically?

      I assume this is an entirely independent Chinese company without some Dutch sponsor or something. That conforms to local regulations. But now The Dutch government says "we have this new power over you" and that is that. With the consequence presumably being export control on dutch tech, banning from their market, etc? Or were there any more hooks planted that make it easier to force compliance? For example -- and I assume this is not the case in the Netherlands -- in China there is a 51% ownership of the foreign company by a local company (which is more or less state controlled).

      • Denvercoder9 1 hour ago
        > I assume this is an entirely independent Chinese company without some Dutch sponsor or something.

        It's not, it's a Dutch company, formed according to Dutch law, with headquarters in the Netherlands, that was bought by another Chinese company a few years ago.

        Dutch law sets rules on how any company, but especially public companies (so-called naamloze vennootschappen) must be governed. Even if you own all the shares, by law you don't have unlimited and unchecked power in the company, you have to abide by governance rules.

        Seemingly simultaneously with the government order, a suit was brought to the court enforcing these laws (the Ondernemingskamer) alledging that the CEO and owner were not abiding by them. The court documents are a bit weird to me as a non-lawyer, with Nexperia named as both plaintiff and defendant, so I'm not sure who brought it, but it might've been the government, who are named as a party.

        The court agreed that the suit could have merit, and as an interim measure while the legal proceedings play out, has suspended the CEO and named a temporary director. It also suspended the authority of the owners over their shares (except for one), and assigned a trustee to manage them temporarily. The court did not actually rule on the contents of the suit yet, it only issued interim conservatory measures. We'll likely hear more about how the suit plays out over the next few months.

        An interesting matter of contention in the suit is that the CEO/owner want the CLO to be suspended, while the other side asks the court to prohibit firing of the CLO. I presume there has been a conflict in the board, either leading to or caused by the government order.

        The court documents are public by the way (in Dutch, obviously): https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/resultaat?zoekterm=nexperi...

        • consp 56 minutes ago
          Sounds like the OR (ondernemingsraad) apparently wants to get rid of the CEO for incompetence which is very interesting. It is extremely hard to prove (in a court of law) but a valid reason. I assume they were doing all kind of shady things if they go that route. (Havent read the Court Docs, it is a guess)

          OR vs CEO also explains the duplicate entries as they are both representatives of the company.

        • niels8472 1 hour ago
          From what I've read it was the company's own board that asked for the ceo (Wing) to be removed.
      • q3k 2 hours ago
        > I assume this is an entirely independent Chinese company.

        It's worth noting that Nexperia is a spin-off of NXP (Dutch company) which itself is a spin-off of Philips' (Dutch company) semiconductor division.

        It's also worth noting that Nexperia's Chinese owners (Wingtech) are at least partially state controlled.

        • khuey 1 hour ago
          Nexperia was also spun off to placate Chinese regulators back when Qualcomm wanted to acquire NXP, and then after the spin off the Chinese regulators still refused to approve the acquisition.
          • galangalalgol 27 minutes ago
            Does that mean teensy mcu are now chinese owned? That was one of the last non chinese mcu available.
        • teekert 2 hours ago
          Perhaps also worth noting that ASML is also a spin-off of Philips.
          • jacquesm 1 hour ago
            And that the two collaborate closely on all kinds of projects, and that NXP (the former owner of the business unit that became Nexperia) and Nexperia (the company that is the focus of this action) are both customers of ASML.
    • rzerowan 13 hours ago
      Maybe pressure from the US gov? As a negotiatingtactic vs China - remeber the moves against MotorSich in Ukraine some years back , where the deal was win-win for both but Washington put the kibosh on it and ultimately got destroyed by Russian offensive. Since the speed/urgency and unusual application of the law as you mention , mean extraodinary actions must have quite extraordinary causes. In any case still too many unknowns in the story , hopefully clarity ensues soonest.
      • Doxin 10 hours ago
        Believe it or not, but the dutch government has agency. It's not impossible for US pressure to be a factor, but I think it's more likely the management of the company was planning to move production to china or something like that. That'd (rightly!) spook the government into some quick action, especially given the political climate around Russia seemingly not being content with having their war confined to Ukraine.

        Unfortunately we seem to be living in interesting times.

        • dragonelite 2 hours ago
          The US has immense pressure on the dutch government, given their control over ASML . Its US big tech and semi design studios that determines who will need to buy EUV from ASML. Given ASML is not allowed to do business with China, Russia etc.
          • fwipsy 20 minutes ago
            You could just add easily argue that the Dutch government has immense leverage over the US, since ASML controls the leading edge fab technology that underpins Nvidia etc. It seems more to me like a highly profitable partnership that neither side can credibly threaten to withdraw from.
          • sgt101 1 hour ago
            Where else will they buy EUV from?
        • mytailorisrich 1 hour ago
          Ultimately the Dutch, like for instance the Australians, are a rounding error compared to China and a pawn in a bigger game. At least the Dutch can "hide" behind the EU.

          So there will noise but this won't stop China' rise and it won't stop Europe's decline, either.

        • echelon 2 hours ago
          > Unfortunately we seem to be living in interesting times.

          China played a remarkably smart game. We let it happen.

          People have been telling us for twenty years that this would happen and nobody listened until it was almost too late.

          • bigbadfeline 1 hour ago
            Either way, it cannot be stopped, China will develop independent technology sector because they can and they have no other choice. They don't trust the West and cases like this make such attitude understandable.

            As soon as China tries to compete with the rich monopolies, the "free market" goes out of the window and becomes "free to do as we tell you".

            • thewebguyd 1 hour ago
              > As soon as China tries to compete with the rich monopolies, the "free market" goes out of the window and becomes "free to do as we tell you".

              Hence big tech cozying up to this administration, and all the attempts to ban AI regulation.

              China won already, US is just trying to stop the bleeding

            • corimaith 57 minutes ago
              >As soon as China tries to compete with the rich monopolies, the "free market" goes out of the window and becomes "free to do as we tell you".

              When China cannot compete with incumbents those protections also go up and when they can now people like you appeal to free trade (while ignoring existing protections). You are being overly charitable to one side here. Which is it? Free trade or Protectionism?

    • miohtama 1 hour ago
      Could be worse. Could be TikTok and threat to national security.
    • javiramos 1 hour ago
      nincompoops... learned a new word today
    • NicoJuicy 2 hours ago
      Germany implemented something similar like this after China took over Kuka (industry leading robotics) and practically build an entire industry of robotics in China after that.

      And of course, the jobs disappeared from Germany.

      • em-bee 1 hour ago
        the jobs didn't disappear (yet). they grew from 13.000 in 2014 before midea took over to 15.000 in 2024. maybe they could have grown more in germany if midea hadn't taken over. who knows.
      • q3k 2 hours ago
        Did they? As far as I know Kuka is still fully controlled by Midea.
        • NicoJuicy 1 hour ago
          The regulation was created after that
  • markus_zhang 1 hour ago
    Time to quote one of my favourite lines in the Godfather franchise. Probably totally unrelated.

    “We gladly put you at the helm of our little fleet, but our ships must all sail in the same direction. Otherwise, who can say how long your stay with us will last. It's not personal, it's only business. You should know, Godfather”

    — The late venerable Don Lucchesi

    • dcrazy 1 hour ago
      I couldn’t place this quote, so I googled it and learned it’s from Godfather Part 3. Bold choice to take your favorite quote from that particular movie. :)
      • mmaunder 1 hour ago
        Oh lord no. Pacino’s Scream made acting history and is of the finest scenes to come out of the Strasberg acting ecosystem. Critics gonna crit, but there are some remarkably good things about that film.
      • markus_zhang 50 minutes ago
        Yeah there are so many memorable quotes.
  • binarymax 1 hour ago
    I'm currently blazing through "Chip War" and can't put it down. This news is fascinating in that context. I highly recommend the book to anyone who hasn't read it.
  • rdl 1 hour ago
    I don't understand why this suddenly happened (except if asked by the USG in response to the recent scare/reality over rare earths).

    The 50% ownership by a sanctioned entity was a reality for a while, and was an issue as soon as the purchase. This didn't change recently. So, this action should have been part of the pre-purchase review (CFIUS in the US...I assume there is an equivalent in China). On the face of it, this all could have been avoided by having a non-sanctioned entity (including another random Chinese company) own enough of the company to get sanctioned entity ownership below 50%.

    • tnt128 1 hour ago
      Negotiation leverage. Had they prevent the purchase in the first place, they won’t have anythings to negotiate now.
  • Luker88 1 hour ago
    I don't know if something similar was feared, but I would like to remind people of what happened in 2020 with China and ARM.

    You don't get into the China market without losing control.

  • rickdeckard 15 hours ago
    Related, the announcement of the Dutch government: https://www.government.nl/latest/news/2025/10/12/minister-of...
  • piskov 10 hours ago
    Also real kicker from 2022:

    The UK used its National Security & Investment Act (2021) to order divestment of Nexperia’s Newport Wafer Fab in Nov 2022. The UK ordered them to sell 86% of the stake due to National Security concerns

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/acquisition-of-ne...

  • bgnn 1 hour ago
    A bit of history:

    Nexperia was formed because back in 2017 (if I remember correctly) Qualcomm wanted to buy NXP. So NXP wanted to look more attractive to Qualcomm shareholders and sold its more low-tech business unit to Chinese investors. That acquisition didn't go through because of the tensions between US and China during the first Trump admin.

    NXP has been trimming fat since its formation from Philips Semiconductors and American or Chinese companies are buying whatever business unit they can grab. They pretty much buy it for the IP and the customers. Once they get the IP they usually fore the whole team and shut dient operations in NL.

    Nexperia wasn't doing this though. They had no interesting technology to steal oe transfer to China to begin with.

  • misiek08 1 hour ago
    50 years of sending all the knowledge to China and now sudden realization that „data is the value”. Work was cheap, but we paid in IP and tech as a whole. It’s great to see how long term is China strategy and how well they execute it.

    Good luck for us all being „independent”. We can make processors out of attached plastic bottle caps…

  • rickdeckard 15 hours ago
    Would be interested to hear some details on this from someone within Nexperia (or the automotive customers it supplied), if anyone is here on HN

    That governmental decision was surely not taken lightly, it's a significant move with high risk of increasing geopolitical tension...

    • jacquesm 13 hours ago
      That will not happen. But yes, you are right that this decision was not taken lightly, I've only heard of one other such move in the last 50 years or so.

      The Chinese propaganda machine is already making lots of waves about how NL is no longer a democracy and how this dings NL reputation abroad.

      The Dutch have put restrictions on Wingtech to not make certain changes (sale or move of assets, intellectual property, company activities, employees) for a year. That should give you enough to chew on I think (and it is public knowledge). Specifically the IP and assets bits are in focus here, more so because the parent company is on a watchlist. Note that they not only kicked out the CEO - which in itself is an earth shaking move for a company this big - they also took control over the shares.

  • jauntywundrkind 1 hour ago
    Nexperia makes quite a line-up of parts. Huge range of pretty low level things, various logic and bus small devices, mountains of transistors. https://www.mouser.com/manufacturer/nexperia/featured-produc...

    They have a not huge but very nice line-up of GaN fet devices too. I'd been looking through their line-up here just lack week!

    Just fun to see what's on offer here. I couldn't find a latest listings by manufacturer for Nexperia, which is one of my favorite Mouser views.

  • rzerowan 15 hours ago
    • dang 2 hours ago
      Thanks, we'll add that to the toptext as well.
  • h45gJaqk 1 hour ago
    The timing is weird, just after Trump's latest escalation with China. Using The Netherlands to fall into the sword would fit with the general tactics of dumping the Ukraine war on the EU and trying to sour their relations with China.

    That way, the U.S. is free to control all oil resources in the Middle East and conquer new ones in Venezuela. The EU gets nothing but enemies and higher oil and gas prices.

    In principle I'm against outsourcing or technology transfers to China, but please do it on you own schedule.

    • Denvercoder9 1 hour ago
      > The timing is weird, just after Trump's latest escalation with China.

      The news is coming out now, but it actually happened September 30th.

    • jacquesm 1 hour ago
      Correlation != causation.
  • brazukadev 10 hours ago
    This excuse could be used by many countries to seize European companies controlling strategic national resources
    • jsiepkes 2 hours ago
      Let's be real here, a European company wouldn't even have been allowed to buy a Chinese company in China and have the level of control as in this case in the first place.
      • tartoran 2 hours ago
        This is it pretty much, not sure why it took so long to come to this realization. Was it greed that caused a warp in rational and common sense?
        • stackskipton 1 hour ago
          Greed. When China was becoming manufacturing powerhouse, it was incredibly cheap, and Chinese government seemed extremely willing to play ball by making sure there was no government caused slowdowns. This obviously worked until it didn't but even now, it's so expensive to change, corporations are screaming about their quarterly stock price and US being so financialized, US in a real gordian knot.
        • q3k 2 hours ago
          Just the religious belief that The Free Market will solve everything on its own and there should be no attempt to interfere with it.
          • jaccola 1 hour ago
            I never understood this, I believe very strongly in the free market, but only where there is a free market. Of course you can let the free market run free up to the border of e.g. the US but surely it won't solve international trade since many countries do not have a free market. Unless we agree some international rules such that the boundary of the free market "sandbox" becomes the earths borders.

            It's why I also think it is possible to hold a pro-free-market pro-tariff position simultaneously without contradiction. Tariffs could be used to "level set" manipulation from foreign governments and make the incoming goods behave as if they were not manipulated (thus also reducing the incentive to manipulate in the first place).

            Not sure this is how tariffs are being used in reality.

            • corimaith 39 minutes ago
              You are 100% correct. Free Trade hasn't been disproven, only the inane notion that one should pursue unreciproval free trade with a countries that perform mercantalism against them.

              The consumer isn't everything, the worker does matter just as much.

    • justinclift 9 hours ago
      And it might even be valid too.
    • Longlius 2 hours ago
      And which firms in China are controlled by European entities?
      • constantcrying 2 hours ago
        There are many companies which the Chinese government could target in retaliation. In China foreign companies are usually minority partners in some ventures with some Chinese company.
        • klooney 1 hour ago
          > foreign companies are usually minority partners

          So, uh, none?

    • octo888 2 hours ago
      Let's hope so
  • constantcrying 2 hours ago
    Great. Absolutely outstanding from the Dutch government, to not let China dominate Europe however it wants.

    Securing a Chip industry independent from China, Taiwan and the US has to be the top long term security interest. I only hope that the EU can use it's power to make things like this more feasible and to keep Europe independent from US/Chinese interests.

    • thewebguyd 1 hour ago
      > Great. Absolutely outstanding from the Dutch government, to not let China dominate Europe however it wants.

      Arguably the time to do that was in 2018, they could have blocked Nexperia from being aquired by Wingtech in the first place. But I supposed the second best time is now.

    • bgnn 1 hour ago
      The same government forced NXP to sell its RF power division to Chinese JAC in 2015 due to NXP and Freescale merger. Isn't that great?
  • isaacremuant 2 hours ago
    It's ok. It's fine when the EU does it. It's only wrong and against capitalism when others do it. Like protectionism.
    • VagabundoP 2 hours ago
      I think its fine to have national and strategic interests. China isn't someone that you can just trust, they are exporting to Russia on the sly and therefore supporting war in Europe because it suits them.
      • dmix 1 hour ago
        > and therefore supporting war in Europe because it suits them.

        FWIW, EU countries are still sending more money to Russia for oil than they send Ukraine in aid. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/24/eu-spends-more...

        Modern global economies are complicated.

        • corimaith 42 minutes ago
          This is a tired talking point. If the EU stopped those imports abruptly they'd blow up their own economies and there would be chaos on the streets.

          It is stupid that they put themselves in that position, but they've also greatly reduced their dependency as the war progressed.

          With the current trade war and their own domestic troubles, China cannot afford to alienate other foreign markets, hence why this is the prime time to drive concessions against them.

      • dylan604 1 hour ago
        > they are exporting to Russia on the sly

        is it really on the sly though?

      • holoduke 52 minutes ago
        The Euro stance on buying US weapons for Ukraine is probably the most dumbest strategic move or the century. Europe is losing at an alarming rate in many ways. I would be more concerned about the US if I were Europe.
      • isaacremuant 2 hours ago
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        • seanw444 1 hour ago
          Quite simple, really: our way of doing things is better, and therefore it's better when we do it.
    • corimaith 54 minutes ago
      Well clearly clinging free trade while others pursue protectionism/industrial strategy at massive scales against you isn't sustainable.

      Is it hypocrisy of you decide to punch back after getting punched? Not really. And China certainly was the much more protectionist than the EU for the three decades.

    • saubeidl 2 hours ago
      Why is "against capitalism" == wrong? Maybe it's right because it's against capitalism.
      • isaacremuant 2 hours ago
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        • Fraterkes 1 hour ago
          How do you know the person you are replying to is applying it selectively?
  • grues-dinner 9 hours ago
    Sell your industry to private equity, this is what happens. Someone who values it will take it up. Many such cases.
  • metalman 10 hours ago
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    • barrenko 2 hours ago
      Read the article.
    • heavyset_go 2 hours ago
      It's just capitalism
      • tirant 2 hours ago
        This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is pure government intervention in a global market where other competing governments (China) are extremely interventionist already.

        Capitalism != Free Market

        • heavyset_go 45 minutes ago
          It's just capitalist governments doing capitalist things like the bidding of the owner class, as they've always done. There's never been a time that capitalist states didn't appropriate property from one party in order to give it to the wealthy. Calling this "clepto capitalism" is a distinction without meaning.
        • Muromec 2 hours ago
          Free market is for the times when you keep winning, once you start losing, it's time to protect national security (tm).
  • piskov 12 hours ago
    > extraordinary move to ensure a sufficient supply of its chips remains available in Europe amid rising global trade tensions.

    It’s like they beg China to do something with Taiwan.