MouthPad: A Tongue-Controlled Touchpad

(augmental.tech)

164 points | by ZaninAndrea 17 hours ago

19 comments

  • arm32 11 hours ago
    As someone who uses head, eye and facial gesture tracking regularly while doing long medical treatments which tie up both my hands, I would really love something like this.
    • hosel 10 hours ago
      I never even thought of that use case! What kind of stuff do you do on a computer while doing procedures? Like reference material? Tracking what you’ve done?
      • arm32 9 hours ago
        A lot less cool than you’d imagine, but hey this is real life. The computer my comfort place, so it’s there to keep my mind occupied and distracted from the treatment’s (iontophoresis) pain. A lot of feel-good scrolling, browsing HN, Reddit, my inbox, multitasking YouTube, etc. If I’m feeling particularly motivated I’ll use STT in my IDE and get some planning done.
  • astrashe2 14 hours ago
    This seems really clever. I don't know anything about what it takes to serve the targeted needs, so I could be wrong. But it's the sort of thing that pops out as really cool and useful, tech that makes the world better.
  • gabriel666smith 14 hours ago
    This looks great for accessibility specifically. My fiancee is partially-sighted, so (while not directly related) I'm extremely supportive of developments in assistive tech. There's a lot of difference to people's lives that can be made.

    For me personally - maybe because I'm not a very nice person, or maybe it's an association that many people would make - clever as the pun in the product name is, it does make me think of saying "mousepad" with a lisp. This seems like a non-ideal association.

    • arm32 11 hours ago
      I vote we rename it to "Ling", short for "lingual"!
  • georgemcbay 32 minutes ago
    The lady mentioning that she uses it to connect with her vibrator certainly wasn't what I was expecting in a glossy product marketing video. Between that and the video call from Rocky's Australian e-girlfriend(?) the video felt like it was sliding into the surreal near the end.

    But, I mean, cool. I hope they have fun with it and it improves their lives.

  • rad-b 13 hours ago
    So refreshing to see such and interesting innovation in the hardware space! Curious as to what’s the business play here, as at $1400 a piece these don’t seem like mass-market devices. And the high-end market is even more constrained with the size of the subpopulation it is aimed at. Regardless of the business model, fingers crossed that more great assistive tech like this one ships!
    • rcxdude 11 hours ago
      It's a relatively low volume, customised product, likely with high development costs (even if it doesn't fall under medical device regulations, making something battery- powered that you stick in your mouth is gonna need a good safety case). It's also very valuable to those who use it, so the market can support the high price needed to cover development (the per unit costs are likely much smaller: note you can buy two for nearly the same price as one).
    • thih9 13 hours ago
      Because there is no mass market, relatively speaking.
  • numpad0 3 hours ago
    Does it work? There seem to be screenshots and nuanced wordings that implies it's currently more often configured like a gyro mouse with a touch button...
    • ComputerPerson 3 hours ago
      As a replacement for a desktop user's mouse? No. Could write paragraphs about how it's a special niche, and the device shines in that niche.

      I've been in the HCI-enthusiast space due to carpal tunnel for a while now. I actually caused myself to have to have the surgery after going all out with QMK mouse keys, which ended up just moving the problem to a different set of fingers. (So maybe not an expert.)

      • numpad0 1 hour ago
        The part I'm not sure is if they have precise tongue location working, of if they have resorted to the pad as mostly just hot corners. I don't have that much doubt about the concept.
  • Tomte 9 hours ago
    Surgery robots have a tongue controller. It takes a while to train on that, but when you‘re trained your tongue muscle is the most precise way to control, say, subtle incisions deep inside the brain.
    • pavel_lishin 9 hours ago
      Do you have a link to those? It seems ... somewhat implausible.
      • Tomte 8 hours ago
        A doctor told me that a few years ago, but googling it myself now, I don‘t find anything, either. I think I missed a joke back then.

        Flag my comment, it‘s wrong.

      • arm32 8 hours ago
        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11118463/

        If anybody reading this wants to hire someone to devote their life to this tech, hit me up. Autistic special interest.

        • dpark 8 hours ago
          That’s cool but also definitely not the same thing that GP claimed.
  • t-3 12 hours ago
    If it can be made comfortable and cheap enough, this could be useful as an interface for AR glasses. The tongue is very sensitive and dextrous, and I imagine that even swipe typing with this kind of touchpad is probably feasible.
  • putergoon 5 hours ago
    Big tech will harvest your mewing data now
  • anilgulecha 15 hours ago
    This is a very novel UX and assistive tech, and I know more users globally (and in India for me) would find this useful.
  • mellosouls 4 hours ago
    As much as I'd like to support this, $1400 places it squarely in the "disability tax" bracket that accompanies products targeting this market.
    • Barbing 2 hours ago
      Perfect the enemy of the good there?

      The more support they get, the easier it becomes to justify dropping the price. The more likely a cheaper competitor shows up.

      Would this product have launched if a minimal profit cap were regulatorily mandated?

    • rrr_oh_man 4 hours ago
      Are you saying the company is overcharging people 10-1,000x?

      (That would let Google Glass also fall squarely into this bracket...)

  • victorbjorklund 10 hours ago
    Wonder if tongue would get tired from it or not an issue.
    • datakan 10 hours ago
      At first yes but just like any muscle it would adapt and probably quickly.
      • trollbridge 8 hours ago
        One of the strongest muscles in the body, too. Along with your jaw and uterus.
  • angry_octet 13 hours ago
    I can see exam candidates having mouth inspections in the future.
  • vivzkestrel 9 hours ago
    chocolate flavored touchpad please
  • gulmothrowaway 11 hours ago
    Step aside Codex Micro!
  • therealdrag0 8 hours ago
    Love the name.
  • newsclues 14 hours ago
    Haven’t these existed before for military purposes?
    • elric 14 hours ago
      I remember reading about tongue based sonar for divers, where the output of the sonar would stimulate electrodes on various parts of the tongue to indicate relative direction.
  • kimjune01 7 hours ago
    it's magic!
  • neet_dev 7 hours ago
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